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Post by tcbrewer on Mar 28, 2002 18:04:55 GMT -5
hi, I am looking for patterns and instrucions on how to make a kimono, and hakama formal for a man on the traditional samari style if anyone can help me I would appreciate it. thank you
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Post by supersoniccartoons on Mar 28, 2002 20:54:48 GMT -5
I believe i saw a pattern for kimono on e bay...IF i can find it again i'll be happy to post that for you...happy sewing!
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Post by supersoniccartoons on Mar 28, 2002 20:59:08 GMT -5
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Post by Kiyoaki on Mar 29, 2002 14:01:22 GMT -5
Dear tcbrewer,
There is a pre-existing heading on page two of this board titled 'hakama', which deals with this topic. You may want to read those replies before continuing here, so you can get caught up on what has already been said. Since that earlier exchange, more information has come to light. I can add that the Folkwear #151 pattern for hakama is only supposed to give you instructions, but no real paper trace to cut.
Your best alternative is to try purchasing an actual garment (possibly through E-Bay) and then take it apart to learn how it's made. That way you can create your own pattern. Japanese clothing is largely based upon folding material, rather than cutting it to size, so it should be fairly simple to figure it out.
There are two major styles of hakama. The formal kind is the simplest. It is basically a formal, pleated skirt. If you use traditional 'tanmono' (14" Japanese yard goods), then you will have to piece together several strips of the correct length, to obtain the necessary width. Otherwise, two pieces of the 36" wide material of the correct length is sufficient. 45" yard goods would give you more finished width (an additional 3"), but for 90% of the cases, is not really needed.
The second type (uma-nori) is designed for riding horses and was the earlier style. That one is a bit more complicated, because there is a crotch. However, even this style is simple in it's design because the joining seam is set very low (sometimes at knee height), and the easing is very moderate.
However, I should also mention that there are some examples, which are very close-fitting. I have an old pair that where custom fitted to an individual. They are almost like jodhpurs, and would be bloused at the knees (another unusual feature). These would be totally unsuited for most purposes. I only make note of the fact, to warn you against that style of 'uma-nori'. Stick to the ones with even hems.
In that regard, the intended use greatly influences which style to copy. If used for 'bu-do' (martial arts), the unbloused 'uma-nori' style is prefered. If the hakama are just for sedentary uses, then the pleated skirt is best.
As to the ties, they need not be made from the same material. Except for very formal use, matching ties was not always necessary or desireable. You may want to use some cloth belting (1 & 1/2" wide; perhaps white)for the ties, rather then folding, and then sewing long strips of material together. That's just a suggestion. Just remember, you need to make four of them over 36 inches long, out of whole cloth (no patched together strips).
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Kiyoaki
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Post by tcbrewer on Mar 29, 2002 19:22:23 GMT -5
:)Kyoaki, Thank you very much for the information and advice, I was able to find and buy a pattern for a mans kimono and hakama on www.patternsoftime.com/catolog 76.html. I will let you know if it is what I was looking for. Thank You Tim
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Hoshi
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Post by Hoshi on Mar 30, 2002 21:55:20 GMT -5
From experience, that is a GREAT pattern. I used it to make a quick simple kimono for a school assignment. If anyone wants, I would be glad to take a few pictured of it (since we all know nothing turns out exactly like what the package shows ). Also, you can get it easier at Hancock Fabrics. No shipping charges or whatnot.
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Post by Haori fan on May 29, 2004 17:48:40 GMT -5
:)Kyoaki, Thank you very much for the link to www.patternsoftime.com/catolog 76.html. !! <br> Before I buy it would be nice to know if they have sewing instructions to the patterns. I´m trying to figure out ???how haoris are made, how the change lining, and how to put it together again. They are so "closed", no visible stiches - very beautifully done. Clever clothing! If you have time to give me some advice it would be very appreciated. Haori fan
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bawsin
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Post by bawsin on May 30, 2004 21:20:08 GMT -5
You may want to check out this book: Make Your Own Japanese Clothes: Patterns and Ideas for Modern Wear by John Marshall. Published by Kodansha International (1988), 130 pp. tinyurl.com/2mr7pI don't sew, but I checked this book out of the local library recently so that I could read a bit more about how these clothes are constructed. Seemed pretty thorough to me, and it includes plenty of patterns. Bawsin
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Post by Haori fan on May 31, 2004 7:18:44 GMT -5
:)Thanks for your reply and the link! I did check up the book. It looks great! It will be to great help. / Haori fan
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