akihito89
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Post by akihito89 on Apr 1, 2005 15:00:27 GMT -5
Hi,
Kids' kimonos are OSM! Boys' kimonos in particular. Ther only veguely resmeble mens' kimonos. They have long, open sleeves and some are curved the the bottom. They are also very colorful. They look awesome! I want custom-designed kimonos made for me that look like these! Anyway, do these harken back to some glorious era? How many 'rules' would I be flunking if I had a kimono made for me like this and wore it around?
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Post by Kiyoaki on Apr 5, 2005 21:29:39 GMT -5
I'm with you, Akihito. Kids (mostly boy's) kimono are every bit as interesting as women's. The long sleeves for both boys and girls are a sign that they aren't adults, yet. So to, the rounded sleeves (besides being practical) also suggest the wearer's irresponsible nature. In that regard, women's sleeves are also subtlely rounded at the outside corner of the sleeves.
Maybe, if you could find enough material, you could have one made. I've had several made through Ichiroya, so your dream may not be completely out of reach. Unfortunately, the material is difficult to find.
Before the Edo era, children were always dressed like adults, once they could walk. The long sleeves on the furisode didn't really catch on until the Edo Period, and presumably that's when it was applied to children. Certainly, once the Shichi-go-san Day was created in the last half of the 20th century, this style seems to have taken on a life of it's own, so that now it's become the standard cut for kids. If has the added bonus of providing more space for the decoration.
I think if you had one made with double-width (two widths of fabric) sleeves, it would be like the hitatare of the Kamakura Period. The only thing lacking would be matching hakama. I think that would look spectacular.
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akihito89
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Post by akihito89 on Apr 6, 2005 8:53:14 GMT -5
Did you have a man's kimono made that resembles a boy's kimono (with the colorful material and long open sleeves)? How much did that cost? That would be sooooo awesome! What material would you reccomend? Did men in days of old wear furisode?
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Post by Kiyoaki on Apr 7, 2005 20:40:55 GMT -5
No. Actually, I've had some regular kimono made for me, after I selected the material. I hadn't thought of the hitatare style for myself, but suggested it as model for you.
The kind of material is the hardest part of the equation. Some of the boys' kimono from the early 1900's up to WW II used modern fabric printing methods, but that type of material is next to impossible to find. The great majority of fabric I've seen on e-bay is either sober of intended for women. There just doesn't seem to any option for us that want to experiment.
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akihito89
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Post by akihito89 on Apr 8, 2005 13:07:05 GMT -5
When you say 'hitatare' do you mean 'kariginu'? If so, those are awesome. I kinda have my own mixes and excentric ideas of what I want. I want to have some wild stuff custom designed and made for me. That will help with the fabric availability problem. It will also be expensive.
I briefly thought of having a kimono made from dark blue bingata silk. Ichiro-san used to have some that I wanted. It was dark blue and made in Kyoto. I wanted to buy it and have a kimono made from it for me. I think It would look cool and I could brag that it's worth thousands of dollars. its designs would probablyu have worked because it was kinda subdued and not bright with huge flowers and pastel colors. I thnk this fantasy kimono would look awesome.
What are the kimonos liek that you had made? I'd like to see some pics.
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Post by Kaede on Apr 15, 2005 18:12:59 GMT -5
I had a look last night for boys' kimono as my 7-yr old son wants one. I did find one on Ichiroya site but wasn't sure what all he would need in order to wear it. He's rather a tearaway and I'm worried it won't stand up to the kind of usage his clothes normally get. I just bought my first yukata (no kimono yet ) yesterday for my birthday and I am waiting for them to arrive. My son saw the pictures and wanted one for himself too. He's interested in Japan and Japanese things as we have many Japanese friends.
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Post by Kiyoaki on Apr 16, 2005 0:03:54 GMT -5
The childrens (boys & girls) kimono are made to a standard pattern. Only the decoration varies by gender. The only extra I'd recommend, is an underkimono (cut to exact same dimension as the outer one) in a washable synthetic.
If you want to go a bit futher, a pair of hakama and zori (slippers) would be in order. If the kimono itself is too wide in the body, sew two folds (starting from the shoulder) running down the lapels. As he grows, these can be let out to fit.
You'll have to impress upon him that he can only wear it on special ocassions and if he doesn't take care of the kimono, you won't let him wear it in the future. He definitely shouldn't be running, jumping or skipping when he's wearing it.
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Post by Kaede on Apr 16, 2005 12:25:42 GMT -5
*laughs* Sorry....I guess he won't be getting one at all then. He doesn't STOP running, jumping etc. so maybe I'll get one now for when he's older.
He is very thin (almost worryingly so) so I think I may have to do that anyway...(the temp. sewing bit) to make it fit, if he ever does get one.
Thanks for the advice...
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Post by Ume on Apr 17, 2005 7:38:38 GMT -5
How cute! Sounds like you have a wonderful boy Maybe you could buy him a yukata? Those are easy to care for and everyday wear. They are easier to dress in too, I think it's a lot of fun for your kid to have yukata! And the nice kimono you could give him for special occasion dress, so he wouldn't need to sit still in it all day, just for a short while and then change back in a nice yukata.
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Post by Kiyoaki on Jun 16, 2005 19:18:00 GMT -5
I'd endorse Ume's suggestion. From time to time, various E-bay sellers offer cotton kimono in children's sizes. If you are persistant, you can find them (just the way you got your yukata). The cotton ones you can throw in the washing machine with regular colored clothes. You might need to iron it later, or may starch it as well for a real crisp look.
Kiyoaki
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